日期：2009-12-28　21:04:51

　　作者：horryleo　回复日期：2009-12-27　08:07:01　
　　hey Scorpio_CJ...
　　I studied for master in finance in uk and just graduated this month...actually your career is what I want to pursue.Luckily I got a final ac at RBS for research and strategy role in jan.However, Competition here is really fierce given the few vacancies.Sometimes they even didn`t recruit ppl for the vacancy opened to apply.(9000+ ppl applied include me for JP`s AM role,they just send out rejection for everyone after our long long wait). Secureing a job here in IB(front office) is dead hard,esp for chinese(for me, language issue).When lots of local candidates from oxbridge and LSE sit besides me, I can only keep my finger crossed and try my luck.Sometimes, I even got lost and try to figure out where is my next desitination (HK,SZ,SH...)if I can`t get hire here.I am kind of the risk taker but still quite stressfuly.My background might not good enough but ok for cv screening.I graduate from MBS, not a first tier uni graduate(Oxbrdige,Lse),pass cfa for two level in last year when i studied for master.I think my performance in F2F interview is ok.if senior manager like me and my personality, I normally can make through to final ac. But the question is my language is no good enough to ensure I perform well in group discussion when the discussion become chaotic and others(say presentation) :(

　　any tips for ac or my future career path... I think I better get the chance to chat with you !lol!
　　would you mind checking your PM :) cheers mate..
　　Merry Xmas and Happy new year guys!!!
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　　LoL mate, maybe you can write out your experience in the interview and share them around here too!

　　I`m sure people here like me will be interested on how you tackle the questions and how you polish your resume to make it stand out, also, what you think is the most important in the resume and the following interview...
　　right, back to your Q:
　　first thing first...
　　Try your best for your final round with RBS, i know they still want to expand, and need people although they had an extremely bumpy ride in 2008 and 09.
　　don`t freak out by those locals in the final round, especially the discussion. look, the logic, what i think, goes like, if they really need someone who can fight against other / others on the table with british accent, you probably wouldn`t be a good fit when you actually start working even if you get the offer somehow...
　　So... by all means, try to be yourself and be confident in the final round.
　　What do they say?

　　Their lose as much as you do if they didn`t spot your talent and gave you a chance.
　　And 2nd thing,
　　Asia is always the (i mean THE) place for Expats like us in the longer run.
　　HK, Singapore, Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen have a lot more opportunities for us to shine in the career. Not only the initial offer for us to get on board, but also the stage for us to perform when we actually start working in the region.

　　It`s always good for us to gain 1 or 2 years work experience overseas in the developed countries.
　　but hey, it won`t hurt if you didnt.
　　I don`t think it`s wise to fight to death for an Americans or Australian to get a job in China among all those Tsinghua or peking uni graduates, only because they had studied uni in beijing or shanghai...
　　Samething applies for us too... We dont have to work in the UK, US or AUS, or Canada before we actually come back to Asia.

　　It`s good that if we had the work experience, but it`s definitely not end of the world thing if we don`t.
　　So, yeah, you have a lot of opportunities down here mate~
　　keep fighting, never give up~
　　Good luck with all the interviews~

日期：2009-12-28　21:38:39

　　香港圣诞节放假啊，24号半天，25号放假。
　　嗯~ 再回应一下...
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　　作者：zs_happy　回复日期：2009-12-27　17:33:43　
　　lz~~lz~~我基本天天爬上来看你的帖子，受益匪浅那。我知道楼主很忙，问问题的也很多，但是我还是费老大劲把尘封的问题翻出来了~麻烦楼主如果了解这方面的话，能否简单回复一下？谢谢啦~~
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　　作者：zs_happy　回复日期：2009-12-12　16:59:45　
　　哈哈 ~~热心的楼主~~我和投行这一块占不到边，对金融也不是很了解。所以冒昧地问一下，LZ对风险投资公司这块了解么？
　　因为我现在做得这家公司就是一个美国的小公司（做食品的），08年被一家风险投资公司收购后，开始快速扩张，业务量增加了好几倍。

　　但是我也听说这种风投公司是没有耐心作实业的，一般都是把一个品牌迅速做大，然后卖给别的大公司。请问是这样的么？如果不卖掉，那这样在风投手下的品牌会怎么样发展呢?
　　有劳赐教，多谢~~~
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　　不好意思啊，积累的Q比较多，看看最近有没有时间，尽量回复。
　　hmm... 很多的时候，风投，we call VC 方便type，是这样的，不是很有耐心去做实业，想把它弄大，然后以高价格卖给更大的公司，或者更大的VC或者PE，然后后者想办法再捞，IPO或者怎么样...
　　以我的理解，
　　VC的进入，就是带来Capital，带来人脉，带来更先进管理经验，等等东西。
　　也不是完全没有踏踏实实的商人，可能百万分之一吧...
　　而且商业活动里面的很多东西很微妙，例如KKR这样的公司，就有可能跟你5-10年，最后狂赚一笔最后。
　　或者也有最后management buy-out的也有，即KKR这样的拍过去的partner或者高层，和实业公司的高层最后联手接手公司，这样的例子也不是没有的。
　　再退一步说... 实业单位里面的人就没有想过exit strategy么？
　　我觉得也是不见得的。汇源不是也想卖给coke么？牛XX不是也退出了么。
　　公司的空壳背后，仅仅也只是director而已，director是公司的mind和brain，director可以是公司的创始人，家族的人，后来的投资者等等....
　　那么VC作为后来的投资者，想要怎么发展公司，怎么处理旗下的brand，这些问题都没有绝对的答案。要看你对这些人到底有多少了解，他们是不是想长干，还是想快进快出。
　　有些VC，资本800万，借债200万，利息5%，是一群很有钱的人。

　　他们去投资一个前景很好的超市，后来超市大了，带给他们非常稳定的现金流，而且管理层一流，还想继续做大，5年后，VC的资本为asset 1500万，0负债，超市经营也非常好。
　　这群有钱人也不是过分贪图之辈，也许，我是说也许，可能就不会退出了呢？
　　到时候上市，资产变成5000万，30%控股，每年一大堆dividend，那就更加不好说退出咯。
　　呵呵，一个很过分的case，呵呵...
　　如果你担心这个企业的发展前途和自身的发展前途，如果你够powerful，boss够nice，下情和他吃饭的时候问问他们的发展想法理念咯。呵呵.
　　哦，还有，PE, VC的东西最好请教dontpeeonme大哥。
　　我也只是从IBD的经验和research里和一些人大叫道的经验来看的。
　　很可能完全错误，完全bias，哈！